[... Ha... he worries about that too. That... it's really hard to see the point in all of this, when everything is so bleak. But even so...]

... Maybe there was never a point.

[Not to any of this. But even so, even so--]

But...we're still here. This is what we've experienced, and this is what we've struggled through. Just because there isn't a point...doesn't mean this has all been meaningless.

So maybe... maybe we have to come up with a point for ourselves.